IN-NATE and NEWBORN PROBLEMS
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I can't tell you what it means to me that you and WOE have stepped up to the plate the way you have. When I posted my "pop quiz" back on April 2nd, I had this crazy idea that I would get immediate answers. Two days later I was so torn by the lack of response that I tried a Big Saddo Appeal. [Patience has never been my strong suit.] But I have to say that the responses that have come in, weeks later, have taught me again that anything worth having is worth waiting for. Thank you both, and those who weighed in in the interim as well. Every little bit helps.
Now, on to the questions from April 5th, those of you who fit the other end of the demographic... and I know there are more of you out there than there are of "us".
Nate, I feel that you are simultaneously a role model and a Cautionary Tale for me:
I don't see myself how the life you are living now do anything but increase the tension between the halves of myself, which would continue to eat away at me from inside. The "Flip" side of that [with apologies to my Möbius-type mate] is that I really have no idea, thirty years down the road, if I could even be happy in an exclusive gay relationship, which seems at the moment where the "solution" lies. There are physical if not emotional hurdles that don't exist when you are young and are going to live forever. Well, I'm not and I know I'm not. [References intentionally mixed, haha.]
But what I AM taking on board for the first time is how often the "homosexual" side of myself I have fended off for so long has not been about thwarted sexual urges, though God knows it's about that, but about thwarted love. It took me the better part of a decade to figure out that the reason I had never liked the wife of one of my dearest friends is that I'm jealous she had him and I didn't. [Duh.] Once I saw it, it seemed so obvious I couldn't understand why the rest of our assembled families hadn't seen it before I did. [Thank God for small mercies.] I went for a walk with a friend the other day and suddenly realized that the still, quiet connection that had always bound me to him went far deeper than I had been willing to admit.
I now see it EVERYWHERE. [Perhaps more than it is there; that is another story of another set of wrinkles in the heart and soul...]
And all of that is pretty much impossible to square with staying married, or at least I doon't see how I can square that circle yet. So, I love my wife and wonder whether the best thing I can do for her wouldn't be to leave. It's a pretty sorry state to be in... at the moment I am Just Too Tired.
Thanks again for your candor. And caring.
yr Lost, Clueless Troll
Having sworn an oath to maintain the veil over my meetings with "my therapist" [how many times in my past would I have bitten my tongue bloody rather than saying those two last words?], I find that her request that I make a list of the things I hoped to resolve in our "work" together has helped focus my thoughts, at least to this point:
Am I gay? how large a part of me is gay? and does anything necessarily follow from that?
Gay enough to know it’s best to leave?
[Last one is actually obvious and mind-boggling, God help me.]
How to resolve the fact that I have always desired men and enjoyed women?
[Age seems only to have increased the division, but maybe I’m crazy.]
How to resolve the division of straight in affection, gay in affection, and the dark side where it’s hard to imagine affection? Ask me about Messrs X, Y, and Z.
[Love divides and is pursued by shadows. Perhaps it’s not as hard as I think, but I can’t see uniting all of this in an even vaguely non-contradictory whole.]
Do you think that could work? What do you think of my wife’s initial response that we cannot stay married if I come out?
She seems sure that a day or two living out what I think I want would bring my world crashing down around my ears; most of me agrees with her, and in any case I am not yet asking for a chance to live it out – only to be able to admit what I am, whatever that is.
"How do I deal with the fact that I live almost entirely 'in my head' and the way that plays into what is going on now?"
ReplyDeleteIMHO the fact that you live almost entirely in your head explains what is going on now. Wise people in AA have warned me by saying, "Your mind is a dangerous neighborhood. Don't go there alone." Each day I pray to be released from "the bondage of self."
As to how to get out of your head? Focus on someone else. Anyone else.
For inspiration, see Spider, Hypoxic, Brad....the list is endless. I have learned much from them.
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"realized that the still, quiet connection that had always bound me to him went far deeper than I had been willing to admit.". Troll this hit me deeper than I maybe care to admit. Thank You. I have one such "friend". Not sure I have ever faced up to what the depth of the connection could imply. Denial is such a sweet safe place to be
ReplyDeleteSome challenging questions you post. I think they will scratch rather deeply and painfully.
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Feelings of love with a good friend can be innocent. The bonds that hold us together grow strong. Getting the words out can be very difficult between guys. I find it much more difficult if I'm also attracted on some deeper level to them. Ironically, they can be the one you care for more. I think an innocent, "I love you, you're a good friend" is always called for, though, for all your close guy friends if you can muster it up and it's said at the right place and the right time (for example, saying goodbye's is safe because it doesn't imply that you want to have sex or something like that necessarily.) I think it's unlikely that such a simple expression will lead to something romantic, but it's always possible, which may or may not be a good thing. :)
ReplyDeleteThese questions are very good to think about. I wonder what you expect from outing yourself? I don't think you'll find it as liberating as you might think. People react very negatively towards gay people these days. You should think about what you expect to happen from your choices. I wonder if your wife (who probably knows you very well) is not completely wrong...
Jaded-type Bear-Person,
ReplyDeleteI do not expect "coming out" to be liberating. I expect it to mean exchanging one set of sorrows for another, esp. if it means that I have to leave my home of 20 years and my love of 26.
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ps: When did "unrequited" become "jaded"? is that because your constituency complained? your partner? your conscience?
hehe...I changed it because of YOU! You planted the seed, am I really unrequited? Definitely jaded though, no question about that! (that's just the email anyways...no biggy.)
ReplyDeleteYou're right, it won't necessarily be liberating. The sorrow exchange is definitely something you need to figure out. Hang in there!