tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24741394.post9032574396295079211..comments2023-05-23T04:45:16.539-05:00Comments on A Troll At Sea: FAREWELL to LOVING FRIENDS...A Troll At Seahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09247836451322342385noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24741394.post-1309761708725249852007-03-16T10:55:00.000-05:002007-03-16T10:55:00.000-05:00Oh, Troll. I am awfully fond of you even though we...Oh, Troll. I am awfully fond of you even though we've never met, and I doubt there are many warts to be found on you. <BR/>Hang in there, it gets better. (Just look at me, right?)Bigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01142387994755864057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24741394.post-43008774908526532312007-03-15T20:32:00.000-05:002007-03-15T20:32:00.000-05:00TG:oh, I get it. Cart is break-up, horse is blogg...TG:<BR/><BR/>oh, I get it. Cart is break-up, horse is blogging. Well, I buy that. Am I reversing that?<BR/><BR/>No, it's just the shock of seeing myself as a quantifiable element rather than a lump of individuality...<BR/><BR/>I would not have the mantra "Necessity is called grim for a reason" if I felt I had had any choice, although I did in fact MAKE a choice -- it's just that I made it when the alternatives had became unbearable.<BR/><BR/>No, I think that I am still in the same place I was before, divided neatly down the middle, and until someone shows up who can knit the halves back together [anyone listening?] I am just doomed to feel divided against myself.<BR/><BR/>"Love is a mystery, and it is the answer. Learning to accept that the answer may be a mystery is part of the process..."<BR/><BR/>That's why I am having SUCH a good time.<BR/><BR/>Thanks, guys.<BR/>T@CA Troll At Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09247836451322342385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24741394.post-67483735196677262752007-03-15T18:55:00.000-05:002007-03-15T18:55:00.000-05:00I guess I've opened myself up here!Bigg, you're ab...I guess I've opened myself up here!<BR/><BR/>Bigg, you're absolutely right about the cart and the horse. Blogging isn't the cause of the issue, it's the manifestation of the issue.<BR/><BR/>Troll, I feel your internal conflict was so strong that I’m assuming you had no other options. YOU didn’t mess things up. Things were JUST messy. <BR/><BR/>And there was NO WAY to clean them up.<BR/><BR/>Now, just start living the way you need to.<BR/><BR/>I believe that God WILL help you.<BR/><BR/>(Side note: Troll, I think one of your first posts I ever read was your response to Bigg about the basis of your religious faith. And here you two still are!)Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11877772974936424670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24741394.post-42884374104752886302007-03-15T14:57:00.001-05:002007-03-15T14:57:00.001-05:00Biggo:Cart? Horse?TBiggo:<BR/><BR/>Cart? Horse?<BR/><BR/>TA Troll At Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09247836451322342385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24741394.post-24416178707131770462007-03-15T14:57:00.000-05:002007-03-15T14:57:00.000-05:00Biggo:I can't argue with you; I just know that the...Biggo:<BR/><BR/>I can't argue with you; I just know that there are arguments as good for the choice I did NOT make as there are for the choice that I did.<BR/><BR/>And while I don't in the least "condemn" my actions, I do need to see all the way to the bottom of them. Pretending that the pretty waves on the surface of the ocean are the whole story leaves out the giant squid and the Marianas Trench and all the cool, scary stuff that lives on the bottom...<BR/><BR/>None of this would be an issue if I didn't, hadn't always, looked at the world through moral-tinted glasses. But if I didn't, I wouldn't be me, either. And much as other people might wish I wasn't, I'm rather fond of me, warts and all.<BR/><BR/>I just wish someone else were, as well.<BR/><BR/>Oh -- and the point of the whole post was that, given Paul's observation of 75-100 MGM blogs [!!!], I am GLAD that I have heard nothing but silence from the guys who packed it in. They may have "chosen the better part, which will not be taken away from them."<BR/><BR/>T@CA Troll At Seahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09247836451322342385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24741394.post-71284334847083667552007-03-15T14:46:00.000-05:002007-03-15T14:46:00.000-05:00Troll, Honey, I wish to respectfully submit that y...Troll, <BR/>Honey, I wish to respectfully submit that you are putting the cart before the horse. I think it's the fact that the guys who can't put their true orientation aside for the good of the marriage are driven to keep blogging about it as a way to stay sane, rather than the blogging itself leading to the end of the marriage. And I myself can't see how someone who REALLY loves you would ask you to deny a huge part of yourself for their own good... seems kinda selfish, but that's just me. <BR/>Troll, honestly now. If you could have continued to deny your feelings, I think you would have, because I know how much you treasure your wife and marriage. The fact is, we're each and every one of us alone inside our heads, and all of the really important stuff in our lives happens right there, in our minds. I don't advocate putting yourself ahead of all other considerations, because some things really are more important -- but I don't think you should leave yourself out of your own considerations or beat yourself up when you do think of yourself first. <BR/>I think a lot of you, Troll, and it distresses me to hear you condemning your own actions this way.Bigghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01142387994755864057noreply@blogger.com